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Labour: Recession would have been ‘catastrophe’ for independent Scotland

Shadow Chancellor Ed Balls repeated the party’s pro-Union message while campaigning in Edinburgh.

26 April 2011 14:07 GMT

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Labour: Recession would have been ‘catastrophe’ for independent Scotland

Ed Balls: SNP euro plans 'crackers'. Pic: © STV

The recession would have been an "utter catastrophe" for an independent Scotland, shadow chancellor Ed Balls has said.

Mr Balls said the notion of Scottish fiscal autonomy is "barmy" and claimed it would have led to catastrophe for Scotland.

Speaking alongside Scottish Labour leader Iain Gray in Edinburgh, Mr Balls also said First Minister Alex Salmond's previous statements about adopting the euro currency for Scotland was "totally crackers".

Labour's election campaign shifted this week from attacking the Conservatives in Westminster to attacking the SNP - and particularly its policy of independence.

Mr Balls, visiting a car dealership in the city, attacked Mr Salmond's calls for fiscal autonomy in Scotland. He said: "Does he still think that Scottish financial regulation should be separate from the UK even after what happened to RBS? It's completely barmy.

"Politics aside, economically it is madness to think that Scotland could do an Iceland or an Ireland and have its own financial regulation, its own interest rates, its own exchange rate. I can't think of anything that would be more disastrous for jobs.

"Ireland had their own corporation tax and it didn't do them much good.

"I think when you look at the package of Scotland going it alone on financial regulation, interest rates and exchange rates, if that had happened in the last five years it would have been a total and utter catastrophe for Scotland. Scotland would be in the same place or worse than Ireland or Iceland.

"And that's just fact. That's not politics, or conjecture, that's me talking as someone who could see what would have happened.

"And the idea that you could have somebody who showed so little economic judgment four years ago can now say ‘trust me on independence’ is absolutely baffling."

Speaking in 2009, Mr Salmond said "a very strong argument" exists for setting Scotland's autonomous fiscal powers "within a European euro context".

Reflecting on those statements Mr Balls said: "Does he still want to take Scotland into the euro? That's totally crackers."

Trams

Mr Gray and Mr Balls were speaking alongside Edinburgh councillor and Edinburgh Pentlands candidate Ricky Henderson.

Mr Gray said Labour would not provide any more funding for Edinburgh's trams. He said: "As Ricky knows, it’s always been a council project. The funding for it was provided when I was enterprise and transport minister, and in 2007 the auditor general looked at this project and found it to be in good health. And it’s since then that its run into problems.

"The SNP-Lib Dem council signed the contract that has caused so much difficulty and they’ve really reduced the project to a shambles. I think it’s embarrassing that a capital city can’t build the kind of tramline that you see in lots of cities in England, and indeed in Europe."

Finance Secretary John Swinney accused Mr Balls of "hypocrisy", saying he had "reduced Labour to a total laughing stock in Scotland".

He said: "Labour's campaign goes from bad to worse with its unremitting negativity, and London-based politicians talking down Scotland's abilities."

"Labour have abandoned their losing 2011 campaign theme of focusing on Westminster, and are reverting instead to their losing 2007 campaign of bashing the people's right to vote on independence in a referendum, even though every survey of public opinion demonstrates the popularity of a referendum to choose Scotland's future."

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    1. 26 Apr 2011 14:29cynicalHighlander said

    Balls the adviser to Brown bankrupting Britain team tries the fear factor as if we have zips up the back of our heads. Haste ye back to London and keep your nosy nose out of Scottish affairs.

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    2. 26 Apr 2011 15:37Josi said

    Nothing to do with ed balls really. but...i think he is right....

    How on earth could an independent Scotland have bailed out RBS and HBOS???? impossible. I doubt even our fabled oil revenues could have coped with it.

    we would now how been saddled with cuts that make current cuts look like a picnic.

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    3. 26 Apr 2011 16:23cynicalHighlander said

    Josi.

    Why should Scotland alone had to bail out two Global corporate banks registered in London just because they had Scotland in there names?

    Red herring argument. At the worst Scotland would of only been liable for a twelfth if they felt it was required. Where is Halifax who were the main culprits in the bubble.

    http://www.youtube.com/...r_embedded

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    4. 26 Apr 2011 17:031scot said

    Balls talking err' Balls.

    Scotland are fed up being used as the source of the majority of cash to feed Westmonster, time to move on.

    Balls doesn't scare Scots, we can now see through the lies. Balls is quaking in his boots, just like the tory toff Thatcheron.

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    5. 26 Apr 2011 17:22Murdo Mor said

    What a platform! Would you buy a used car from either of these dodgy characters?

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    6. 26 Apr 2011 17:24snowthistle said

    So, after 300 years of union Mr Balls believes that the Scottish economy is weaker than the weakest economies in Europe.

    I guess the union isn't working for us.

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    7. 26 Apr 2011 18:15snowthistle said

    If the headline is correct and Labour recession would have been a catastrophe for Scotland, we had better not vote Labour

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    8. 26 Apr 2011 20:14for Scotland said

    What a joker they must really be worried,Labour led recession 'what a Balls up' They as usual promise the earth when they want elected ,anyone who trusts labour in Scotland should ask themselves what have labour done for Scotland in the past four years, all they have done is at every opportunity stopped or tried to stop anything to benefit Scotland and it's people,indeed why am I saying 4 years history speaks for itself. Labour care nothing for Scotland all they are interested in is getting some form of power somewhere. Away home Ed you are not wanted up here.

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    9. 26 Apr 2011 20:48frank mcbride said

    ""I think when you look at the package of Scotland going it alone on financial regulation, interest rates and exchange rates, if that had happened in the last five years it would have been a total and utter catastrophe for Scotland. Scotland would be in the same place or worse than Ireland or Iceland.

    "And that's just fact. That's not politics, or conjecture, that's me talking as someone who could see what would have happened."

    This is what is known as a self-serving justification.

    There is no substance, nor is there any evidence.

    NewNuLabour has adopted the mantle of Mandelson: tell any lies as long as they contain a fear factor.

    The reality is that Balls was the real architect of De-Regulated banking in the UK and, as such, more to blame than Brown for the catastophe for which we are all paying.

    To permit another Balls-up NewNuLabour administration to inflict a double dose of Balls-up economic insanity on the people of Scotland would be unforgivable.

    FOR A FAIRER AND MORE PROSPEROUS SCOTLAND: VOTE SNP x 2.

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    10. 26 Apr 2011 20:51frank mcbride said

    ""I think when you look at the package of Scotland going it alone on financial regulation, interest rates and exchange rates, if that had happened in the last five years it would have been a total and utter catastrophe for Scotland. Scotland would be in the same place or worse than Ireland or Iceland.

    "And that's just fact. That's not politics, or conjecture, that's me talking as someone who could see what would have happened."

    This is what is known as a self-serving justification.

    There is no substance, nor is there any evidence.

    NewNuLabour has adopted the mantle of Mandelson: tell any lies as long as they contain a fear factor.

    The reality is that Balls was the real architect of De-Regulated banking in the UK and, as such, more to blame than Brown for the catastophe for which we are all paying.

    To permit another Balls-up NewNuLabour administration to inflict a double dose of Balls-up economic insanity on the people of Scotland would be unforgivable.

    FOR A FAIRER AND MORE PROSPEROUS SCOTLAND: VOTE SNP x 2.

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    11. 26 Apr 2011 20:53frank mcbride said

    Apologies, I thought that my first posting had no been received :-(

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    12. 27 Apr 2011 10:34Leighton said

    Think you've made an error in your title shouldn't it read as follows:

    The Labour Recession would has a ‘catastrophe’ for Scotland.

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    13. 27 Apr 2011 10:48A_Scottish_Voice said

    "barmy", "totally crackers" -

    Words used by Ed Ball in his argument against Independence.

    Hardly a great advertisement for an Oxford University education.

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